Our verdict

The Guide 17 is a significant evolution from its predecessors. We put it to the test and were impressed by Saucony's departure from traditional stability features, offering a rockered ride. And despite a slight decrease in agility from its wider midsole, the shoe still maintains a competitive weight. Therefore, we believe it's a great upgrade, standing out as a top choice for anyone in search of a modern stability shoe that's reasonably priced.

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  • Lightweight
  • Fairly priced
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  • Exposed midsole

Comprar saucony water Hurricane 23 para mujer al mejor precio | Audience verdict

90
Superb!

Who should buy

In our lab tests, the saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" emerged as a top pick for:

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  • Those in need of a moderate stability shoe that offers solid value and a comfortable upper.
  • Runners with a mild pronation or a neutral stride seeking a reliable daily trainer with just the right amount of non-intrusive support.

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Who should NOT buy

In our testing of the saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy", we've noted it lacks the energetic underfoot feel many runners look for—its ride can feel somewhat dull. Runners seeking a more lively bounce would do well to consider the saucony water Trail Excursion TR15 Goretex Παπούτσια Για Τρέξιμο, Comprar saucony water Hurricane 23 para mujer al mejor precio Hoka Arahi 7 Невесомые кроссовки saucony.

Moreover, we believe the Guide 17 may not be the best fit for those with severe pronation issues. It has moved away from traditional stability features, and for those in this category, there are more suitable options on the market like the Hoka Gaviota 5.

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Cushioning

Heel stack

We previously mentioned Saucony's increase in stack height, so let's delve into the specifics, as it significantly enhances the cushioning experience underfoot.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" heel

In our measurements, the heel boasts a towering 34.9 mm of cushioning, marking a noteworthy 2.3 mm increase from the prior version of the Guide. This enhancement is particularly beneficial for heel strikers, and it's impressive that this was achieved without any compromise to the shoe's weight.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Heel stack
Test results
Guide 17 34.9 mm
Average 34.2 mm
Compared to 403 running shoes
Number of shoes
22.5 mm
Heel stack
46.3 mm

Forefoot stack

In the front of the shoe there's also more PWRRUN cushioning working to protect your joints! Our measurements revealed a forefoot thickness of 27.9 mm, marking a significant 3.1 mm increase from the previous model.

This confirms that the Guide 17 isn't just more cushioned for those who strike with their rearfoot but enhances the ride for all types of runners. 

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Forefoot stack
Test results
Guide 17 27.9 mm
Average 25.6 mm
Compared to 403 running shoes
Number of shoes
13.7 mm
Forefoot stack
37.1 mm

Drop

Our calliper measurements reveal a 7-mm heel-to-toe drop, a slight deviation from the official 6 mm. This minor difference is so subtle that it's essentially undetectable.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Drop
Test results
Guide 17 7.0 mm
Average 8.6 mm
Compared to 403 running shoes
Number of shoes
-0.2 mm
Drop
16.1 mm

Midsole softness

Note: a low durometer measurement equals a soft material, whereas a high measurement means it's firm.

As we discovered just before, saucony water has impressively managed to incorporate more of the reliable PWRRUN foam underfoot. While we were holding out for the introduction of PWRRUN+ for that extra bit of bounce and energy return, it seems that enhancement might be on hold until the next iteration.

Nevertheless, the current PWRRUN foam does a good job offering reliability, durability, respectable energy return, and ample stability.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" PWRRUN foam

Our tests show it registering at 22.3 HA on the durometer, striking a balance that steers away from plush midsoles, which aren't typically desired in a stability shoe. Still, we can't help but yearn for that PWRRUN+ upgrade!

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Midsole softness
Test results
Guide 17 22.3 HA
Average 20.9 HA
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Compared to 330 running shoes
Number of shoes
8.5 HA
Midsole softness (soft to firm)
35.0 HA

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PWRRUN combines EVA and TPU, creating an interesting blend for this cold temperature test. EVA tends to harden significantly in the cold, whereas TPU maintains a consistent feel.

Our experiment revealed a 24.2% increase after a 20-minute freezer session, a result we consider quite acceptable. Typically, TPU's performance change is less, and EVA alone can see a 30-40% increase under similar conditions, so this seems totally reasonable.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Difference in midsole softness in cold
Test results
Guide 17 24%
Average 25%
Compared to 330 running shoes
Number of shoes
0%
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63%

Insole thickness

The saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy"'s insole stands out as one of the plushest we've encountered in our evaluations. Its remarkable 6.7 mm thickness pairs with the premium PWRRUN+ cushioning, surpassing even the quality found in the shoe's midsole (PWRRUN).

This combination delivers an exceptionally soft and supportive underfoot experience while running and walking.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Insole thickness
Test results
Guide 17 6.7 mm
Average 4.4 mm
Compared to 399 running shoes
Number of shoes
1.5 mm
Insole thickness
7.3 mm

Rocker

Until the latest version, the saucony water Guide series had barely any rocker—something that's changed dramatically with the v17. In our tests, we noticed a very evident rocker at both the heel and toe.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" rocker

While this might come as a surprise or even be undesired to some, we believe it enhances the shoe's transitions and adds a layer of stability, making it a change we welcome with open arms. And for those who aren't fans of rockered shoes, the market still offers excellent alternatives—such as the ALIFE x Saucony.

Size and fit

Size

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" is true to size (41 votes).

Owners of this shoe, how does this shoe fit?

1 size small ½ size small True to size ½ size large 1 size large
Compared to 381 running shoes
Number of shoes
½ size small
Slightly small
True to size
Slightly large
½ size large

Toebox width - widest part

The midsole dimensions of the Guide 17 have enabled saucony water to design a roomy toebox, enhancing stability without compromising on comfort.

This approach is a game-changer for those with wider feet that really love Saucony. With the widest point of the toebox now measuring 97.8 mm, this iteration is more accommodating than ever, setting a new standard for roominess in the Guide series.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Toebox width - widest part
Test results
Guide 17 97.8 mm
Average 95.5 mm
Compared to 158 running shoes
Number of shoes
88.5 mm
Toebox width - widest part
102.4 mm

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On the flip side, the toebox features Saucony’s usual tapered design, which, in our opinion, may not work well for runners with wider toe regions.

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After doing another measurement, we discovered a result of 73.7 mm—around average but not aligned with the wider trend seen in the previous reading.

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Test results
Guide 17 73.7 mm
Average 73.7 mm
Compared to 158 running shoes
Number of shoes
66.7 mm
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83.6 mm

Toebox height

The front of the shoe offers generous toe height at 29.3 mm—something we truly appreciated and found beneficial for both running and casual wear.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Toebox height
Test results
Guide 17 29.3 mm
Average 27.1 mm
Compared to 157 running shoes
Number of shoes
22.4 mm
Toebox height
33.8 mm

Stability

Lateral stability test

Stability is the cornerstone of the saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy"—everything else takes a back seat. We're pleased to report the shoe excels in its primary mission. 

Marketed as a moderate stability shoe, it caters to the vast majority of runners without resorting to traditional methods like medial posts. saucony water has finally embraced new stability techniques such as enhanced midsole walls, sole flares, and a rockered shape, aligning with the latest industry trends for a more natural stability solution.

Torsional rigidity

The Guide series has always stood out for its remarkable flexibility, even among stability shoes. 

However, moving away from more obtrusive stability features like medial posts has led to a slight increase in torsional rigidity. Where the previous Guide scored a 2 out of 5 in flexibility, the latest iteration has moved to a 3 out of 5. Yet, it remains somewhat flexible!

Test results
Guide 17 3
Average 3.4
Compared to 382 running shoes
Number of shoes
1
Torsional rigidity
5

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The heel counter in the saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" boasts a robust stiffness, scoring a solid 4 out of 5 in our evaluations. While there's potential for saucony water to ramp up the rigidity in future iterations for even greater stability, we believe the current level strikes a perfect balance.

This moderate stiffness ensures a harmonious blend of comfort and support, setting a benchmark in moderate stability footwear. Our hope is that saucony water maintains this optimal stiffness, as it adeptly combines support with wearability.

Test results
Guide 17 4
Average 2.9
Compared to 366 running shoes
Number of shoes
1
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5

Under Armour drop 0 1 mm verdes

The most striking transformation in the Guide 17 is undoubtedly its broader midsole, a significant leap from its predecessor that's nothing short of astonishing and delivers a massive boost in terms of stability.

The forefoot width has expanded from 114.4 mm in the previous version to 121.0 mm in the latest, offering a more generous platform that enhances support, particularly benefiting those who strike with the midfoot or forefoot.

This change, while impressive, does mean the shoe now feels more like a sedan, diverging slightly from the nimble agility typically associated with a daily trainer.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Midsole width in the forefoot
Test results
Guide 17 121.0 mm
Average 114.1 mm
Compared to 404 running shoes
Number of shoes
102.2 mm
Under Armour drop 0 1 mm verdes
126.9 mm

Midsole width - heel

The transformation in the heel width is even more staggering than the forefoot, escalating from 85.8 mm to an astonishing 104.6 mm. This 22% increase is among the most dramatic changes we've encountered in any update.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" heel

This wider heel is a game-changer for stability, particularly benefiting rearfoot strikers, albeit at the expense of a slightly less natural running sensation. Nonetheless, we recognise this as a necessary adaptation to imbue the Guide series with the requisite stability sans conventional support mechanisms. It seems this trend may set the standard for future stability running shoes unless a novel innovation emerges.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Midsole width in the heel
Test results
Guide 17 104.6 mm
Average 90.6 mm
Compared to 404 running shoes
Number of shoes
70.8 mm
Midsole width - heel
106.6 mm

Flexibility / Stiffness

Recalling our earlier note on outsole grooves, their role is pivotal in ensuring the Guide retains its hallmark comfort for all-day wear, a necessity for its flexible design—quite the challenge in a maximalist shoe.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" flex

The strategic reduction of rubber in the outsole, coupled with these grooves, significantly contributes to this flexibility. In our 90-degree bend test, the shoe demonstrated a remarkable 22.2N, underscoring its impressive adaptability and ease of movement, making it a standout feature that continues to impress us despite its size.

Test results
Guide 17 22.2N
Average 28.1N
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Compared to 383 running shoes
Number of shoes
2.2N
Flexibility <> Stiffness
72.1N

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Despite the presence of some EVA in the PWRRUN foam, our tests revealed only a modest increase in stiffness by 15.5% during our 90-degree bend test under chilly conditions. Fantastic!

Test results
Guide 17 16%
Average 32%
Compared to 383 running shoes
Number of shoes
0%
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101%

Weight

saucony water has impressively managed to bulk up the stack height for enhanced cushioning in the Guide 17 without crossing the 10-oz mark, maintaining it at only 9.7 oz or 275g.

This achievement mirrors the weight of its predecessor, yet offers significantly more foam underfoot.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Weight
Test results
Guide 17 9.70 oz (275g)
Average 9.38 oz (266g)
Compared to 404 running shoes
Number of shoes
5.61 oz (159g)
Weight
12.59 oz (357g)

Breathability

Despite the ample ventilation holes in the saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy", our smoke test revealed that airflow didn't meet our expectations. It scored a modest 3/5 in our evaluation, indicating that while the shoe is competent for most climates, it might not be ideal on extremely hot days.

This outcome was somewhat unexpected, particularly because the light test suggested excellent breathability. This highlights the value of conducting various tests to accurately gauge a shoe's ventilation capabilities—not relying solely on one method.

During the light test, we noted that ventilation is concentrated in the forefoot, tapering off towards the medial side. This design choice is strategic for a stability shoe, enhancing support where it's most crucial.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" micro

Closer inspection with the microscope revealed a typical engineered mesh upper, consisting of a primary breathable layer and a secondary layer beneath that adds structure and comfort but somewhat restricts airflow.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" micro 2

The upper's toebox area is notably stretchy, adding to the shoe's comfort, and the heel is exceptionally well-padded.

The rest of the upper offers standard comfort levels, striking a deliberate balance between weight and plushness.

Test results
Guide 17 3
Average 3.8
Compared to 333 running shoes
Number of shoes
1
Breathability
5

Durability

Toebox durability

As we proved before, the engineered mesh incorporates numerous ventilation gaps for enhanced breathability, which initially raised concerns about its durability here in the lab, as such openings can often become points of weakness in the upper's structure.

Nonetheless, Saucony's mesh design, while unremarkable on its own, consists of multiple layers. This layered approach ensures that when the outermost, softer layer is compromised during our Dremel testing, a secondary layer remains to prevent extensive damage, leading us to award a 3/5 durability score in our lab evaluation.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Toebox durability
Test results
Guide 17 3
Average 2.6
Compared to 267 running shoes
Number of shoes
1
Toebox durability
5

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The heel of the Guide 17 not only offers luxurious, comfortable padding but is also wrapped in a fabric that exudes durability. Eager to see its resilience, we put it through our rigorous Dremel test.

To our delight, it performed exceptionally well, securing a perfect 5/5 score from our team. With such outstanding durability, we're confident in asserting that the Guide 17 will withstand premature wear in the heel area, even for runners who typically experience durability issues here.

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Test results
Guide 17 5
Average 3.2
Compared to 262 running shoes
Number of shoes
1
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5

Outsole hardness

The Guide 16's outsole was too hard at 92.0 HC, leading to subpar grip. saucony water made some changes in the Guide 17 with a softer rubber at 88.8 HC, but in our experience, traction still falls short.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" outsole
It's nice to see Saucony's signature branding on the outsole, because it looks just like a Hoka. Oh, and that forefoot groove works wonders in terms of flexibility.

Seems clear to us that saucony water had to balance between durability and grip due to the large amount of rubber used in the outsole. They opted for a tougher rubber to increase lifespan, sacrificing grip in the process. That's it.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Outsole hardness
Test results
Guide 17 88.8 HC
Average 79.7 HC
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Compared to 384 running shoes
Number of shoes
56.1 HC
Outsole hardness
93.0 HC

Outsole durability

The compromise paid off! Unlike the lacklustre performance of some harder rubbers in our durability tests, the Guide 17 excelled impressively.

After halting the Dremel and taking new measurements, we observed a mere 0.6-mm wear—indicative of remarkable longevity.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Outsole durability
Test results
Guide 17 0.6 mm
Average 1.1 mm
Compared to 245 running shoes
Number of shoes
0.0 mm
Outsole wear
2.0 mm

Outsole thickness

With the rubber thickness at a solid 3.0 mm, we're confident that even heel strikers with significant pronation won't encounter rubber major wear issues.

However, the concern lies with the exposed foam areas not protected by the outsole—prompting us to recommend this shoe only for road running or treadmills. Caution is really advised against venturing onto rougher terrains like gravel roads.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Outsole thickness
Test results
Guide 17 3.0 mm
Average 3.2 mm
Compared to 401 running shoes
Number of shoes
1.0 mm
Outsole thickness
6.0 mm

Misc

Reflective elements

We believe that reflective elements are a must-have for any daily trainer to ensure safety. Thankfully, saucony water has incorporated some into the Guide 17.

Test results
Guide 17 Yes

Tongue padding

In a bid for a lighter build, saucony water has pared down the tongue thickness by 3.7 mm compared to the previous model. While the Guide 16 boasted a plush 7.7 mm cushioning, the Guide 17's tongue measures a slimmer 4.0 mm.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" tongue

This reduction, we found, might leave something to be desired for a daily trainer. Most runners will find it sufficient, yet we believe an extra 1 or 2 mm could have struck a perfect balance between comfort and lightness.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Tongue padding
Test results
Guide 17 4.0 mm
Average 5.8 mm
Compared to 401 running shoes
Number of shoes
0.4 mm
Tongue padding
14.2 mm

Tongue: gusset type

We were happy to see a half-gusseted tongue again—it's a great fit for this shoe. Just like the last version, it shows that sticking to what works is sometimes the best move.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Tongue: gusset type
Test results
Guide 17 Both sides (semi)

Heel tab

The heel boasts a stylish and practical finger-loop pull tab, making it effortless to slip your feet into the Guide 17.

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Heel tab
Test results
Guide 17 Finger loop

Removable insole

The PWRRUN+ sockliner is removable since it's not glued down, offering versatility in customization. Yet, we'd suggest keeping it in place—it's truly one of the highlights of this shoe!

saucony water Grid SD "Burgundy" Removable insole
Test results
Guide 17 Yes